Thursday, September 30, 2010

Making Spiritual Sense of Harry Potter as a 'Christian'

The important thing that professing 'Christians' tend to forget in this day and age is found in Matthew 7:16:
"You will know them by their fruits."
Many 'Christians' buy into the wide popularity of Harry Potter -- the acceptance as non-reality because, after all it's 'just fantasy', because of the: 'I'm not practicing witchcraft itself'-- argument. The series elevates the practice of witchcraft which as we know is simply tapping in to the spiritual realm apart from God. In the scripture it is plain to see the root of witchcraft is "rebellion"...
"For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry."
1 Samuel 15:23a
We know in the Word such staunch scriptures that warn vs. the practice of witchcraft:
"There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer.."
Deu 18:10

"For those nations, which you shall dispossess, listen to those who practice witchcraft and to diviners, but as for you, the LORD your God has not allowed you to do so."
Deu 18:14
But in backing up we also know:
"When you enter the land which the LORD your God gives you, you shall not learn to imitate the detestable things of those nations."
Deu 18:19
Okay...okay... "But we're not 'practicing' it, only watching it for entertainment"... so let's look at the fruits, because we can't even trust when a person 'says' they are 'Christian' or wear a cross around their neck...

It is quite notable when you look at the monetary intake of the Harry Potter Behemoth; but very 'telling' when you look at the praises of the witchcraft community:
"He’s a charmer, that Harry Potter. The adolescent hero of J. K. Rowling’s series rides a broom, owns an invisibility cloak and magic wand, and has cast a spell over young readers the world over. He has modern-day witches enchanted too. "For once, the witches aren’t ugly old hags," said Michael Darnell, 39, a computer programmer from Winnipeg, Canada, who has been a practicing witch for over twenty-five years. "For once they’re the protagonists rather than the villains."
USA Today, May 30, 2000

“Harry in an absolute godsend to our cause,” said High Priest “Egan” of the First Church of Satan in Salem, MA. “An organization like ours thrives on new blood - no pun intended - and we've had more applicants than we can handle lately."

Beyond fruit, perhaps we need to look at this from a parable viewpoint...
See, people don't feel guilty because they do not 'jump in with both feet', but we can learn a lot from our system of law.

Accessory (legal term):
"An accessory is a person who assists in the commission of a crime, but who does not actually participate in the commission of the crime as a joint principal."
In an 1999 interview on the Diane Rehm Show, Rowling admitted that she studied witchcraft and mythology in order to write her books more accurately. She said, "I do a certain amount of research so when Im mentioning a creature, or a spell I will find out exactly what the words were, and find out exactly what the characteristics of that creature or ghost were supposed to be." She went on to say that about one-third of what she had written is based on actual occultism.
J.K. Rowling interview on The Diane Rehm Show, WAMU, National Public Radio, October 20, 1999

When we take this 'accessory' mentality and look into the scriptures for answers it is pretty clear that to turn away from such 'rebellion' is to not only stop practicing, but stop 'looking' as well:
"Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver. So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed."
Acts 19:19,20

When you look at the root---examine the fruit, all in light of the Word of God, it's pretty easy to discern. Just the other day I was flipping channels on the radio and a Lady Gaga song was on with a really catchy beat. I found myself flipping the channel the moment I had heard the first sentence in the song not line up with Philippians 4:8... and was boo'd by one of my sons until I taught him the importance of not living under religious extremism yet also not allowing worldly programming because it's true, "garbage in, garbage out". It comes down to being led by the Spirit of the Living God. Why is there so much commotion with Harry Potter??-- It's because the Holy Spirit is churning... the series of books, movies,'s everywhere.... it's hard to go against the grain; but can we learn from those new Christians from Acts 19 that axed that rebellious root? If they did it as former first-hand practitioners, we should have no problem in doing likewise with Rowland's 'Accessory' rebellion.

Tuesday, September 21, 2010

Immature Prophets

hearingGod's reply to a Seeking Person's encounter with a prophetic person with a message that didn't 'sit right' with them:

Now, as for you...i really don't know all that has been said & your relationship etc....but, at the same time...God can prophetically show people things that aren't pleasant (the old testament prophets had to do it with the kings all the time & they were
hated & persecuted for it). I don't know your friend--so I don't know--but sometimes, God shows things to a prophet & then the prophet can screw it up by injecting their own flesh....their own band-aide fix mixed in with the message. Like God shows them something, but instead of just giving a message or discerning that they not share it, but instead pray for the people involved...they take that message and mix it up with what they think is the solution. Of course we know God often does things unconventionally for this very reason and even if the prophet's own idea works, the prophet always miss out on blessing or there is always a consequence for not totally relying upon God. (*Note Balaam in the Book of Numbers around chapter 22.
Balaam could hear from God, but he had roots of inequity that he held onto instead of obeying God.)

If a prophet does this, it isn't necessarily a bad spirit taking them over or's just their mind trying to 'fix' a thing. Could make sense with good intentions and no control or benefit on behalf of the prophet. This happens a lot with immature prophets...just not enough understanding to know when 'it's God'--to ONLY deliver or pray for something and STAY in the spirit about it &/or not go off & allow another spirit in to taint it or to allow thier own flesh to come in and counsel 'thy will be done'. This is where you have to discern. You have to look at the whole this person prophetic and maybe they let their flesh in and perhaps this is why it's not setting well in your spirit?

If you have a warning in your spirit ask yourselves some basic questions:
Does the prophet often jive "'give a cup of water' to a prophet in return for blessings" and accept/promote donations? (greed)
Does the message bring attention to the prophet, esp. favorable accolade? (pride)
Does the prophet somehow benefit? (control, lust if for relationship)
Are you told to do or not do something--stay away from a certain individual? (control, manipulation)
The list can go on and on.... it's just important that you take that measure of warning, with common sense, ask for His revelation and then apply it alongside the Word of God.

Beware of Religious Condemnation/Control

Person with 'Controlling Religious spirit':

hearingGod's Reply:

Sorry, I had to remove your 'YELLING' off my page.

Thanks for your opinion... do check out the Catholic Charismatic Renewal.... that's where I got baptized in the Spirit. Pope John Paul II highly esteemed it, and I find it a real light among catholic church goers.
Jesus moved us out from under that structure... please be wary of judging's me before God alone.
"Even a man, who was not one of the disciples was driving out demons in Jesus name. The disciples told him to stop but Jesus said "do not stop him." No one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me for whoever is not against us is for us." (Mark 9:38)
peace and the forbearance of good fruit,


Signs of a Religious Spirit:

(1) They’ll find fault with others but not themselves

(2) They always tear down, but never build up

(3) They are unable to receive correction or instruction

(4) They won’t listen to men, only “to God”

(5) They believe that God has appointed them to fix you

(6) They will not tolerate weakness or failures in you

(7) They always want recognition

(8) They are suspicious of every new move of God

(9) They always glory in yesterday, but never today

(10) They won’t join a group outside theirs, and will forbid you to, also

Monday, September 20, 2010

When a Prophet Goes South - Forgive Them Anyways

Spirits infiltrate and blind people and so it's of utmost importance to also go by the fruit a person bears.  With one individual I kept seeing a lot of negative 'fruit' in the way they'd talk & actions...things that opposed the scriptures; and yet they knew it was wrong and made good sounding excuses for 'bad behavior'. BUT I'd keep putting em' on a pedestal like 'no, they couldn't be captured by are a prophet'.  Learn from my folly.... See, we can't look to anyone but Jesus, that's why eating, breathing, reading, listening to the bible is the best thing because it is the standard that these 'fruits' must meet. No more comparison amongst other humans-- we SIN. We need ultimate truth!
Sure, I was shocked when the bad fruit in this individual could no longer be hidden...

"Excuse me, but isn't that a rotten grape?" "Uh, no, it's just a raisin, ya....that's the's a raisin & they are sweet ya know?"

...but understanding that it was a spirit that influenced them...see how the anger, and everything can be directed at the enemy, not the person? Intercede for the person... bind the spirit behind it all if it begins to rail against you.

When bad fruit gets outta hand and shlops all over the place, you should recall from the scriptures what to do.
Matthew 18:15-17
“If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother. But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every fact may be confirmed. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.”
Remember that Jesus is the Savior and if your correction is ignored and you suffer a kick in the pants as you run out the door... all that matters is that you are faithful before God; He will deal with them later.

I've known 'prophets' that are like a light-switch....they have some fruit that is evident that they are moving & under the spirit of God & then the next moment they are manifesting under some evil spirit and the fruit is totally rotten.  That's when it's hard & where discernment comes in.
In the book of Philippians 4:8 it says to 'test everything & keep that which is good'.
God can use anyone... but that doesn't mean we condone or fellowship with a blatant sinner. How do we know then... 'where they are at'?

The thing with this is, is that no one will know until judgement day.  They may actually be trying to cleanse but still have access issues. We cannot judge if they've crossed the line and do not cry wildly in repentance behind closed doors, but time does tell...the word doesn't lie...
In Matt. 7:18-19 "A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire."

If the process of Matthew 18:15-17 does not bring repentance and resolution, then all we know we are to do is disassociate from fellowship, not judge, and continue on our way.

"Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'" (Matthew 7:22-23).
These types of people will have a rude awakening UNLESS they start producing GOOD FRUIT.  As your focus and benchmark rests solely upon your Savior... your good fruit will not go unnoticed. This is what it means to wash your garment and keep it white... what it means to get oil and keep the lamp lit.... YOU HAVE WORK TO DO, first and foremost on YOURSELF. Never compare yourself with a bad apple you've come across... minding your own business involves abiding in His word by conforming to it.

"I try to Read the Bible but I Just Can't"

If you focus on Jesus, He'll order everything else in place. Hindrances to reading the bible are NOT you.... remember we are in a spiritual battle. If you allow the spirits that try to block you from reading the bible & such to conquer you--fear will continue to run you around. Read the bible even if you don't want's spirits that try to hinder you...the word of God is called the 'sword of the spirit''s a weapon. As soon as you take it & begin to use it, it's over for the enemy in your life & it's only onward & upward. Begin to pay attention to the thoughts you have or the distractions that happen every time you move towards seeking God in the bible or praying. It's no coincidence. Bind them up in the name of Jesus and move forward.

Safety in a Multitude of Counselors

Proverbs 11:14 - "In a multitude of counselors there is safety"
The church group I used to hang out with was split all up because the deeper you go into the spirit...the more junk gets purged from your soul & if you hang onto what God hates...the devil steps in under the appearance of God & feeds your flesh.  If you don't line everything up to the word of God as the measuring rod, you can go astray. 

So what happened with our church group stuff...was the group leader was secretly getting people into african money scams that she was deceived into believing were real.  Sure, she had the intent of using some of the money for Godly purposes...but she did everything in secret & didn't counsel with others who would've told her it was a scam...all because she had a root of greed she would not let go of and the devil had a hay-day with her.  Then, after it was exposed she turned and attacked everyone that she should've counseled with....also remember the bible talks about 'you will know them by their fruits'.  So, this was the proof of her 'bad fruit'...her pride, her deception.  She had been listening to the devils voice & bated by a root of greed for so long that she turned to attack instead of accept reprove, correction or anything that would align with the bible.

Go to the Source - The Bible

Seeking Person's Letter:
"George" read an Anne Rice book and the idea in there sounds very reasonable as well but then it makes me question the devil's 'job'. It was that the bad people that go to hell basically go to 'school' to learn about what they did to everyone else that made them go to hell. Then after all of the years going to Satan School if they learned from their mistakes God would accept them. Now that sounds right and makes sense except for one thing....if the devil is helping out then why the hell does everyone say that the devil wants to pull you in and he's bad and everything? I don't get it! Basically bad people go to satan and good people go to hell but what does satan have to do with anything? He sound to me like a disciplinarian. Is that bad? I don't know anymore....Please tell me what it all means.

hearingGod's Reply Letter:
The only way to know God's opinion about stuff is in the bible. Any other
interpretation of anything biblical is subject to demonic
influence...that goes with Anne Rice stuff...that even goes with a pastor preaching at the pulpit. It's because
man is a filter. God teaches me the greatest things when
I simply ask Him 'what's up with this or that?' --
and then ask Him to reveal the answers to me through the bible. Then
sometimes I still don't 'get it', with what He's saying in the
bible...but that's where the Holy Spirit comes in & shows me the
answer through dropping stuff in my path through everyday life &
songs & things. But the bible is always the source. Even looking up
stuff on the internet & typing in the subject of my question & then
adding the word 'scripture' ...I come across all kinds of bible
'teachings' that are 'false'. It's like; so what....add some
scripture to a bogus teaching that's full of evil, and people believe
it's 'accurate'. I can spot these things because of the Holy Spirit
confirming it within me. That's why the baptism of the Holy Spirit is
important...because it's inviting God inside to teach you. Occult
people invite the demonic spirits inside themselves to learn hidden
things...the baptism of the spirit is the opposite. It's really
simple...the problem is, is that the devil sneaks into the teachings
of man & perverts everything so it brings tons of confusion & twists
things to get man to attack religion & use religion as a weapon.
That's why the bible is so important, because it's not tainted.
(Granted there are some versions of the bible that have been
manipulated & the meanings changed a bit--most of those
have been widely exposed), but even with that,... with the
Holy Spirit inside...God shows us when something is false &
encourages us to look for the good signs or 'fruits' that prove it's
worth. I suggested before...start with the gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke &
John) & then go through to the end of the book. Then, begin to ask God
where to read...even flip thru the pages & point your finger with your
eyes shut. If you really want to know...He'll reveal stuff to
you...and sometimes in the most amazing ways. He's even put
reflections of a heart on the wall for me when I've been sad. Other
people might think it was a coincidence, but because I was praying &
asking for help...the meaning was clear to me.

Mind and Body Torments - You Can be Free!

Seeking Christian's Letter:
I have fear and think we are stupid to consider buying a house that requires so much work and mold issues. Then there's the factor that we both have demanding jobs that we can never seem to keep up and I'm fighting this damn depression/anxiety.... there's days I wish I was just dead. I would never do that...cause I would never hurt my children like that, but to be honest that is how I feel. I know I have so much to be grateful for but I feel like I fail at everthing...and I'm just so tired of trying. Monday I'm going to talk to my dr office to try something new....I feel like a yo yo with my moods.....I slept for 5 hrs yesterday during the day. today I slept for 6hrs.

hearingGod's Reply Letter:
I believe your depression & anxiety are spiritual issues. The church doesn't teach this stuff...everyone pushes medication. That's why we left the padded pews...because they don't consider the supernatural (they push a 'form of godliness, denying the power thereof'). So, listen to the teaching & consider it. I had 'generational deliverance' (applied Jesus' forgiveness to the unrepentant sins of my forefathers)...after that, my head was quiet as a pin. I never realized how much of the voices in my head were NOT ME! So then, they'd try & come back & then I'd really notice em' & not let em' take me over. You have to just take every single negative thing that comes into your head & take note of it & then look up scriptures that say who Jesus says you are & defend yourself.

When you to God that you want to be free of this stuff, and He will begin to teach you & deliver you. If it's really bad (the tormenting thoughts)...getting deliverance done would be the best, especially if you struggle or are weak in faith about it all. Any sort of deliverance really cleans your slate of gained access of the enemy.

I want you to understand that you're a wonderful person---you really are. This stuff that's 'ugly' --these thoughts aren't you! ---it's NOT! I can see that....I've been there. This is absolutely the understanding behind the scripture:
2Corinthians 10:5
"We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ.."

Please do read this verse in context for greater revelation.

Gaining Faith by Believing the Word of God

Seeking Christian's Letter:
How do you use the shield of faith, is there a prayer?? I could really use this!! Did 'Linda' tell you about the horrible thoughts that run through my head or was this voice just from me???
fyi 'Bob's' aunt comitted suicide today :'(

hearingGod's Reply Letter:

Yes, these thoughts are not from you...think about it, the bible says :
Romans 8
1"There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."

So, these thoughts you have are awful, they are hate think they are you & therefore you think you are a bad person....but that is not the case. You need to have FAITH (which you know)...and the bible says:
Romans 10:17
17"Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ."

So the 'word' of Christ is the bible. You HAVE to read the bible to make it through this. Do not rely on the counsel of anyone that doesn't read it regularly. I love 'Linda' but she doesn't read it. People that don't 'know' Jesus inside & out can be baited by the enemy and say things like: "God forbid it, Lord! This shall never happen to You."
However we don't want our flesh patted... we need His truth, not to stumble!
"But He turned and said to Peter, "Get behind Me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to Me; for you are not setting your mind on God's interests, but man's."

Unfortunately for 'Bob's' aunt...she became another victim of 'the voices'. When a person believes it is themselves, they become a puppet. Columbine, Virginia tech....demon possessed people--yes there were christians there in the region but, remember I said there are a lot of 'churches' out there....but they have no authority in the spirit. How do we know? By the fruits. Are they doing what the disciples did... the things that Jesus said would accompany those who believe? (Mark 16-17)
When you read the word, believe the can do the same amazing things Jesus did, and more:
"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do because I go to My Father." (John 14:12)

Why don't we SEE these amazing things??? Because people don't BELIEVE....are listening to 'the voices'. Disaster & all sorts of stuff is averted by 'sons of God'....those wielding the authority of Christ (check out Luke 9).

It all starts in the mind....

Learning to Grow in Relationship and Spiritual Discernment

hearingGod's Letter:Words are powerful...they can create life or death. Consider how many people have said bad things about 'Bob'....those things become a curse & drag him down--it gives the devil access to torment him. I'm more careful now about how I judge people, because people can be so influenced by the devils voice. We should take it out on the devil & shut the access down instead of calling people stupid so much.

'Bob' I really admire...he is a really talented person--gifted in soooo many areas. Just so many nay-sayers that shut him down at times.
Most people want to medicate & drug the world...but I think darn near all of it is caused by spiritual access by the devil. Much of it built up curses that run in family lines. I tell you, I learn a lot more from God outside of man's view ofchurch since out of a 'padded pew'.

Sometimes you listen to those little voices too much...those ones that call you 'a damn sinner' & judge you as rotten because you don't go to church etc.-- that's a spirit of religion. I see more character in you than many that brag of being the number one bible study leader. You just need to believe you are who God says you are in Him & profess that when the 'thoughts' condemn you--because if you haven't figured out what i'm getting that not every voice you hear in your head is your own...some of them you've 'thought' is 'you' your whole life---but really are inherited demons thru family curses. Then ofcourse you've got people you know that open pandora's box all the time & let the devil run right into their lives....that is different.
You can break the access the devil has by drawing close to Jesus & asking Him for deliverance. Asking for the sins of past generations to be broken so that they cannot have access to your child. I could tell you some wild stories. It just comes down to a matter of believing what the bible says & whenever you screw up to go to Him & ask forgiveness & then your slate is wiped clean & it doesn't get passed on to your kids. It won't work if you do it outta lip service out of fear...if you genuinely get to know Jesus & believe what He's promising--then you'll see all sorts of miracles & hear His 'voice' in all sorts of ways. Having a relationship--that's key. You'd do anything for a friend that you love...that's the kinda relationship God wants with people. 'Religion' just wants people in bondage & under laws & judgement. God only gave 'laws' so people wouldn't do things that would give the devil access into themselves....but a spirit of religion wants you to dress 'right', do this, do that or you'll burn in hell--Ha ha ha. Once you understand the difference between the 'why' God commanded something---that it was to protect people--you can really have freedom in life. Man puts himself into bondage under a spirit of religion. When 'free' you can explore that truly nothing is impossible & that God put talents upon you & desires in your heart & that you should pursue those things. You find fulfillment in life & His kingdom comes--everybody's happy ; p

Seeking Christian's Reply Letter:
Thank you....that helped.
You made me realize how much I put 'Bob' down myself.
I'm not sure about the family curses etc. and I know I'm not the best person but I appologize to God when I think bad thoughts about others and thank him for things that are good. I don't claim to be a holy roller or the best christian, that's one thing that bugs me about those who do....when their actions don't support values. I talk to God, well usually thank you or 'I'm sorry' just about everyday. THANK YOU FOR MY SON ALL THE TIME, I'M SOOO LUCKY TO HAVE HIM. I appologize for thinking to myself how fat someone is. I ask for help to get some of the horrible thoughts that go through my mind out. I pray when someone needs help or dies; but thats about it. I dont think you'd call that a relationship. I have some work to do.

hearingGod's Reply Letter:
You're really on the right track. The way to boost the relationship more is to do as much listening as you do talking ; ') and by that I mean investing some time in reading the bible. I don't do it nearly often enough myself, but I had a few intense years of reading it a lot so it's easier for me to find what i'm looking for...or God to remind me of a story that relates to a situation I need help with.

A good way to start is start at the 4 gospels & read from them to the end of the bible (over a period of time of course) ...then...what I would do is just ask God what he wanted to say to me...or to learn or whatever & I'd hear that 'small still voice' tell me a book & then some numbers. If I wasn't sure if it was chapter 2: vs 31 or chapter 23 vs. 1...I'd just read both. Other days I'd just close my eyes, pick a page & point & then read whatever my finger landed on. Some days stuff wouldn't correlate at all but others I'd have a tear in my eye because He'd nail my problem or encourage me or whatever. It's always hard at first, but getting into a set groove about it (I think my first dedication to reading the Word was bathroom visits--LOL). The neat thing is everybody's relationship with him is different so stuff me & 'Papa' share won't be the same as how you 2 do. That's a huge problem in institutionalized 'church' person gives a testimonial on how fasting did some miracle in their life so then everybody else decides to follow it like it's some recipe or formula. So essentially people don't consult God for their needs & situations...they follow a formula, like God is some genie in a bottle. So then they wonder why God never does anything for them...well, duh....they never got close enough to Him...they just wanted to hang out with a human that did. If you put that into human relational terms...they aren't being friends with God are they?... I'd be ticked-off to be treated that way.

All I can say is spiritually speaking...the devil doesn't want you to get close to God so you'll just have these feelings & thoughts that are negative vs. reading the scriptures. And you'll hear excuses in your head & yawning & all sorts of stuff. But that's the already have a good communication base with just need to hear more of His heart & plans through the word. As you invest in that...suddenly, your ears & eyes will begin to open...a song (and i'm not talking christian radio either!) will come on the radio that has the same theme of something you just read that last night...someone will say something in conversation & although they are clueless, you can recognize that God is answering a question you just asked through them. It is pretty wild how God speaks & it's not all religiousy & solemn either. That's why I love the 'matrix' movie series so's not a religious movie...but it's really true to what is going on spiritually in this day & age--I know whoever wrote it...that God was inspiring their pen.